'Concepts & Core Values' Monthly Series
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The Matrix
threeinoneloveforall wrote:With the Matrix video we could start playing after the shooting scene. But really thinking about it (and I'm probably just over-analyzing-I tend to do that), the guys who shot the Keanu Reeves would be the equivalent of the Roman guards who carried out Jesus' resurrection, but accurately, the equivalent is us because our sins are what nailed Jesus to the cross. So if we are the equivalent and we're drawing parallels, than according to this movie Jesus is going to destroy us and we should run from Him. We know this is not the case, so we would have to cut the video to about 1 minute from when Keanu is kissed and comes back to life and gets shot at the second time. So, talk to me guys, thoughts, comments, other video suggestions???
Actually, whether we are Christians or not our sin kills us. It is just whether or not we allow Christ to kill us and then recreate us in his own image. I really like the matrix.
Neo as Christ
Trinity as the Father or the Spirit
Morpheus and Dozer/Tank (i forget which one) as creation/angels confused with what God is doing.
Agent Smith as us
We kill Christ but God raises Christ and then Christ enters our lives and removes our sinful flesh creating us in his image. Many of us do run from Christ. The Matrix Rocks. The only thing is the a Chick as God but I think that actually helps to realize the love relationship between God the Father and the Son.
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Brian Musser- Posts: 23
Join date: 2008-09-30
Re: 'Concepts & Core Values' Monthly Series
threeinoneloveforall wrote:This can be used as a Why We Die vid. With it we can ask, "Is this what Jesus meant when He told us to take up our cross and follow Him Matthew 16:24? Of course not, so what does it mean for us to take up our cross? It means for us to die to ourselves, Paul said "I die daily" 1 Cor 15: 31. Btw, I encourage you guys to read 1 Cor 15 esp verses 29-32. It's deep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWIDZ7Jpdqg&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=death%20and%20life&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&clientiurl=http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/CWIDZ7Jpdqg/hqdefault.jpg&feature=player_embedded
We wouldn't be able to control where a conversation about this goes.
Brian Musser- Posts: 23
Join date: 2008-09-30
KJ-52
We could combine Lyrical Analysis with video analysis by discussing a music video and its lyrics i.e.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4tMxYj1avM
Life After Death Lyrics
Artist(Band):KJ-52
Review The Song (5) Print the Lyrics
Send "Life After Death" Ringtones to Cell
rolled out the bed as the alarm started going off
Rubbed my head with my arm it was the crack of dawn
I'm late fo work and I really just hate my job
I kissed my wife good-bye and then I walk across the lawn
Got in the car out the driveway and I'm riding on the road by the mall
Past the highway that I'm flying on
It slows to crawl cause some guy was driving wrong
And I'm getting mad cuz I wonder why it's going on
Get out the way I just scream as I'm driving on
I hate my day and this way that it started off
I change lanes and I thought that I was pulling onto
The main lane but just then I saw this green Honda
It straight came next thing it was the window shattered
Felt a great pain my body being bruised and battered
It all changed went black and I knew I had it
I coughed blood breathed my last breath that was it
Chorus
Whatcha gonna do when there's no time left?
Whatcha gonna do when ya take ya last step?
Whatcha gonna do when breath ya last breath
Out the chest and find that there's life after death? [x2]
Next thing I know everything just got real quiet
I opened my eyes to my surprise now it's real silent
I realized I had died now it's my judgment
I'm standing before the Most High now when all of the sudden
He said to me, "Why should I let you into My heaven?"
I told God, "Well realy I'm a good person."
He showed my life and all the times now that I was sinning
Every line to every curse to every bad decision
From every lie to every word there was nothing hidden
He showed how Christ died and with my life that I'd killed Him
He showed me time after time how I'd reject Him
I never cared about the sacrifice that God had given
I never cared about my life or the way I lived it
And now I've died and it's too late to be forgiven
Guilty of my crime I'm sentenced to eternal prison
It's dark, I'm alone, I feel my flesh burning
[CHORUS]
I got out the bed as the alarm started going off
I scratch my head and then I yawned it was the crack of dawn
I'm praying and I'm thanking God that I got my job
I kissed my wife good-bye then I walked across the lawn
Got in the car out the driveway and I'm riding on the road by the mall
Past the highway that I'm flying on
It slows to crawl cause some guy was just driving wrong
But I'm not mad I just wonder why it's going on
I use the time to pray for my family now and for my mom
I'm thanking God for the way my day had started off
I change lanes and I thought that I was pulling onto
The main lane but doesn't that guy see my green Honda?
It straight came next thing it was the window shattered
Felt a great pain my body being bruised and battered
It all changed went black and I knew I had it
I coughed blood breathed my last breath that was it
[CHORUS]
Next thing I know everything just got real quite
I opened my eyes to my surprise now it's real silent
I realized I had died now it's my judgment
I'm standing before the Most High now when all of the sudden
He said to me, "Why should I let you into My heaven?"
I told God, "I never was a good person."
He showed my life and all the times now that I was sinning
Every line to every curse to every bad decision
From every lie to every word there was nothing hidden
He showed when his son died and with how I'd killed Him
But He showed the time I chose Christ and I didn't reject Him
He showed the time when I took the love that God had given
He tried to serve thru my life whenever I lived it
And now I've died but I thank God that I'm forgiven
He wiped the tears from my eyes as I cried and thanked Him
Cuz forever I'm a be with Him just in Heaven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4tMxYj1avM
Life After Death Lyrics
Artist(Band):KJ-52
Review The Song (5) Print the Lyrics
Send "Life After Death" Ringtones to Cell
rolled out the bed as the alarm started going off
Rubbed my head with my arm it was the crack of dawn
I'm late fo work and I really just hate my job
I kissed my wife good-bye and then I walk across the lawn
Got in the car out the driveway and I'm riding on the road by the mall
Past the highway that I'm flying on
It slows to crawl cause some guy was driving wrong
And I'm getting mad cuz I wonder why it's going on
Get out the way I just scream as I'm driving on
I hate my day and this way that it started off
I change lanes and I thought that I was pulling onto
The main lane but just then I saw this green Honda
It straight came next thing it was the window shattered
Felt a great pain my body being bruised and battered
It all changed went black and I knew I had it
I coughed blood breathed my last breath that was it
Chorus
Whatcha gonna do when there's no time left?
Whatcha gonna do when ya take ya last step?
Whatcha gonna do when breath ya last breath
Out the chest and find that there's life after death? [x2]
Next thing I know everything just got real quiet
I opened my eyes to my surprise now it's real silent
I realized I had died now it's my judgment
I'm standing before the Most High now when all of the sudden
He said to me, "Why should I let you into My heaven?"
I told God, "Well realy I'm a good person."
He showed my life and all the times now that I was sinning
Every line to every curse to every bad decision
From every lie to every word there was nothing hidden
He showed how Christ died and with my life that I'd killed Him
He showed me time after time how I'd reject Him
I never cared about the sacrifice that God had given
I never cared about my life or the way I lived it
And now I've died and it's too late to be forgiven
Guilty of my crime I'm sentenced to eternal prison
It's dark, I'm alone, I feel my flesh burning
[CHORUS]
I got out the bed as the alarm started going off
I scratch my head and then I yawned it was the crack of dawn
I'm praying and I'm thanking God that I got my job
I kissed my wife good-bye then I walked across the lawn
Got in the car out the driveway and I'm riding on the road by the mall
Past the highway that I'm flying on
It slows to crawl cause some guy was just driving wrong
But I'm not mad I just wonder why it's going on
I use the time to pray for my family now and for my mom
I'm thanking God for the way my day had started off
I change lanes and I thought that I was pulling onto
The main lane but doesn't that guy see my green Honda?
It straight came next thing it was the window shattered
Felt a great pain my body being bruised and battered
It all changed went black and I knew I had it
I coughed blood breathed my last breath that was it
[CHORUS]
Next thing I know everything just got real quite
I opened my eyes to my surprise now it's real silent
I realized I had died now it's my judgment
I'm standing before the Most High now when all of the sudden
He said to me, "Why should I let you into My heaven?"
I told God, "I never was a good person."
He showed my life and all the times now that I was sinning
Every line to every curse to every bad decision
From every lie to every word there was nothing hidden
He showed when his son died and with how I'd killed Him
But He showed the time I chose Christ and I didn't reject Him
He showed the time when I took the love that God had given
He tried to serve thru my life whenever I lived it
And now I've died but I thank God that I'm forgiven
He wiped the tears from my eyes as I cried and thanked Him
Cuz forever I'm a be with Him just in Heaven
Brian Musser- Posts: 23
Join date: 2008-09-30
Re: 'Concepts & Core Values' Monthly Series
Brian Musser wrote:threeinoneloveforall wrote:With the Matrix video we could start playing after the shooting scene. But really thinking about it (and I'm probably just over-analyzing-I tend to do that), the guys who shot the Keanu Reeves would be the equivalent of the Roman guards who carried out Jesus' resurrection, but accurately, the equivalent is us because our sins are what nailed Jesus to the cross. So if we are the equivalent and we're drawing parallels, than according to this movie Jesus is going to destroy us and we should run from Him. We know this is not the case, so we would have to cut the video to about 1 minute from when Keanu is kissed and comes back to life and gets shot at the second time. So, talk to me guys, thoughts, comments, other video suggestions???
Actually, whether we are Christians or not our sin kills us. It is just whether or not we allow Christ to kill us and then recreate us in his own image. I really like the matrix.
Neo as Christ
Trinity as the Father or the Spirit
Morpheus and Dozer/Tank (i forget which one) as creation/angels confused with what God is doing.
Agent Smith as us
We kill Christ but God raises Christ and then Christ enters our lives and removes our sinful flesh creating us in his image. Many of us do run from Christ. The Matrix Rocks. The only thing is the a Chick as God but I think that actually helps to realize the love relationship between God the Father and the Son.
You could also put Agent Smith as Death itself. where o Death is victory? Where o death is you sting? or even just sin itself.
Brian Musser- Posts: 23
Join date: 2008-09-30
Re: 'Concepts & Core Values' Monthly Series
Brian Musser wrote:Brian Musser wrote:threeinoneloveforall wrote:With the Matrix video we could start playing after the shooting scene. But really thinking about it (and I'm probably just over-analyzing-I tend to do that), the guys who shot the Keanu Reeves would be the equivalent of the Roman guards who carried out Jesus' resurrection, but accurately, the equivalent is us because our sins are what nailed Jesus to the cross. So if we are the equivalent and we're drawing parallels, than according to this movie Jesus is going to destroy us and we should run from Him. We know this is not the case, so we would have to cut the video to about 1 minute from when Keanu is kissed and comes back to life and gets shot at the second time. So, talk to me guys, thoughts, comments, other video suggestions???
Actually, whether we are Christians or not our sin kills us. It is just whether or not we allow Christ to kill us and then recreate us in his own image. I really like the matrix.
Neo as Christ
Trinity as the Father or the Spirit
Morpheus and Dozer/Tank (i forget which one) as creation/angels confused with what God is doing.
Agent Smith as us
We kill Christ but God raises Christ and then Christ enters our lives and removes our sinful flesh creating us in his image. Many of us do run from Christ. The Matrix Rocks. The only thing is the a Chick as God but I think that actually helps to realize the love relationship between God the Father and the Son.
You could also put Agent Smith as Death itself. where o Death is victory? Where o death is you sting? or even just sin itself.
Great points!
threeinoneloveforall- Posts: 12
Join date: 2008-11-13
Re: 'Concepts & Core Values' Monthly Series
Brian Musser wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4aJ4P7YNQw&feature=related
Umm, this one makes me cry. For that reason, I love it! It's definitely a reminder and wake up call for lax Christianity.
For this one and the last, though, the conversation would probably go one way among a group of Christians (which will be the majority). I think we would all share the same point of view and would just be nodding through what anyone has to say because we believe it to be true. While it would definitely spark emotion and maybe even fire, the videos focus on the literal death for Christ. I think we're kind of leaning toward the active death that we die to ourselves--that is, killing our flesh or even just finding life in Christ whereas before Christ we were dead.
threeinoneloveforall- Posts: 12
Join date: 2008-11-13
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